I do same with shotgun the last round fired stays in the chamber. In the past, I've heard people say they aren't comfortable carrying a loaded firearm on them or want to just scare people away. If you are so uncomfortable with a Glock as a fully loaded and chambered self defense gun, why do you own one? It likewise utilizes a cocking system that is unique amongst striker-fired pistols. When the time comes that you actually need your carry weapon things are going to happen really fast. When something becomes familiar, inattention and negligence become more likely. Options are good. I think it's more about . NO - any responsible gun owner should have some reservation until enough information has been provided. . I have a Sig DA/SA, fully loaded no problem. Want to vent about something? As I mentioned elsewhere here, the trigger pull and safety mechanism are irrelevant to the *proximate* cause of any Glock discharge Im aware of. It's a little bullet with a decent velocity, but will it actually fill the freezer? My point is that I see no benefit in limiting my defensive options. The 16 chamber cylinder is specifically a reference to Kevin Costner in Open Range. without going into details i have it set up that theres no way anybody gets in my house at night without making enough noise for a long enough time that i wont have enough time to wake up and get my wits about me and get my firearm and charge it while on my way to the threat Or even sex. Hell, try it with a taser. The Glock 17 is a full-size pistol that is chambered in 9mm. It appears to me that Darwin and his theory of evolution is again being ignored, if you are dumb enough to carry without forethought, please ace yourself before you breed. KAER adhere to the business philosophy of customer first, service first, quality first, and provide our customers with high-quality products and perfect service.. We are a professional manufacturer dedicated to the production of gun safes, safe box, pistol safe and other security products. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Still chambered in 9mm, the G19 measures 7.28-inches in total length. But Knute is fine, and nobody else seems to want it. But otherwise it still is a pretty good gunfight scene. At least the DA/SA or DAO provide a long hard trigger pull. Glock .40 Caliber Breakdown and Buyer's Guide - Pew Pew Tactical In a holster made for the gun you carry, making sure its unobstructed is a quick check. What I meant was: As all who have examined a REGULAR single action revolver, like a Colt SAA or the old three screw Rugers before the transfer bar, would know. Modern revolvers (Smith & Wesson, Taurus, Ruger, Kimber) have transfer bar safeties and as such theres no need to mention it. Is it a lot of work to train to the level where you never get it wrong? One never knows who one is talking to. I submit extremely unlikely. Guns in my bigger safe are in condition 3 (AR rifles and defensive shotguns), except for my SAA revolvers are empty as I dont consider them as a defensive weapon (my hunting rifles and shotguns are empty too), mainly because both have 8 1/2 barrels and were used for silhouette shooting when I was younger. This has nothing to do with car=privilege firearm=right. Over at gunssavelives.net, Dan Cannon has unearthed the SAFE-DRAW system for GLOCK brand GLOCK pistols.SAFE-DRAW gives the Austrian-born pistol an initial 17 pound trigger pull. 21 foot rule gets those people every time. Carrying One In The Chamber, Continued - The Truth About Guns Absolutely YES!! I wouldnt have or carry any with a non hot pipe, but thats just me. He thinks. The hammer connects with a firing pin thats integrated into the frame, which strikes the primer. in the 20th and 21st centuries, empty chamber is just retarded. I got them after watching the best experts I know of, champions, and their green light review. I dont know how high Id have to go to get it to ignite, but I figure Im never going to carry my piece 8+ off the floor, (seeing as how thats the height of most ceilings). They have defense of the State, of their comrades, or of other citizens. It is generally safe to carry a Glock with a round in the chamber, as long as the user follows proper handling and safety protocols. After all, this aint Dodge City and you aint Bill Hickok. Someone who wants to spend a couple thou on a gun should be more than willing to put the energy into learning how to use it safely. This would require the grip safety to be disabled (a somewhat common modification) or to malfunction. Is it Safe to Appendix Carry a Glock? - Incognito Concealment Doesnt come into play until youve already fired 5 times. Until I do, its one in the chamber with safety engaged and hammer down on a DA/SA pistol. I assume the manual safety was also engaged, but such a strap on the holster sounds pretty good, as well! Is A Glock Safe To Carry Chambered. Time waits for no man, and neither do bad guys. In that book, they suggest that the proper way to carry a semi . Now getting older, I have trouble with body positions for competitions, so I dont enter very many club competitions anymore. Heres how all of this bogus started. Another difference is that the Equalizer is only available chambered for the 9mm Luger, where the Shield EZ can be had in .380 Auto, 9mm Luger and .30 Super Carry. Usually for at least an hour or so. I lost a whitetail in heavy cover to the click when the safety is released. IOWs, pathetic sheeple. Its part of being human. Even my beloved Browning High Powers (all 6 f them) gave me fits until I found some expanding ammo that would work reliably in them. That was back in the 1970s somewhere. And being that I am a Veteran the simple act of 1 second as I draw is a negligible amount of time just like the BS of you can only have a 10 round magazine but you can carry as many magazines as you like try it one day drop a mag change it takes less than 3 seconds. Clearly not enough to train for scenarios where chambering a round can be life or death. We do all make mistakes. Eventually, revolver designs changed. You can also watch plenty of guys who have never once needed their guns in a confrontation, yet shot themselves because they kept one in the chamber. How often are you a klutz when driving a car? Just saying. So, as DG said, its a problem in search of a solution. Even though everyone who has ever used and examined a SA revolver can easily see that the firing pin is ALWAYS in contact with the primer when the hammer is down, if the chamber under it has a round in it?, And, again, absolutism that is far too easy to refute. Those stances, their great for cops and competition but IMO bot so great in a gunfight up close. this aint Dodge city and you aint Bill Hickok Blam, Blam,Blam! All of that seemed a bit verbose for a blog comment, though. In war or a defensive situation, that will get you killed. israeli carry is stupid. Pull back the hammer, you notice how it clicks 4 times? But thank goodness I dont have to make that choice. Yes. But it used to work fine, a year or so before that. Because if youre smart enough to be worried about a Glock short trigger and trigger safety, youre probably smart enough to know you need to train so that your trigger finger is never in the trigger until the sights are on target, and you take the time to inspect your holster for obstructions before holstering or unholstering. Am I being silly? I can cycle the bolt almost as fast as I can take the safety off, even when I stepped on a black bear who was sleeping under a downed tree. Then you have the big, scary, single-action magnums by IWI (the BFR) Freedom Arms and custom guns from Jeff Linebaugh. The name's Jordan, but friends call me Jordy. The finger does not go in the trigger guard until Im ready to fire. More bad advice, did the author not learn from his first mistake? I can raise and lower the bolt slowly in complete silence. Go get a titanium firing pin. Im a mommy-frelling ballerina with a pickem up truck towing. If you don't just pick ONE, then IMO you are always going to wonder if you're chambered or no. Almost always comes back to the trigger. If you want one of it, you must like it, so why wouldnt you want more? Belittle all you like, there is only one gun in my house which I will not keep around fully loaded, and that is my one Glock. They are built using the patented Safe Action System which prevents unintentional firing. I recommend RTS Tactical for reliable, rifle-stopping options, Youre worth it. When it didnt open the first time, your brain clicked again to make sure, often without one even knowing they did so. A 2A focused forum that patronizes a troll like VLAD is as questionable as the NRA in its current form. Certified Glock Armorer, Colt Armorer, FN Armorer, Beretta Armorer, Smith and Wesson revolvers Armorer. so the theory still stands, if you dont want a negligent discharge, dont be negligent. Still disagree? Yeah, me too. I still dont get any notifications that someone has replied to any of my comments. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. FNS9-C. You have to train how you'll fight and fight how you train. Not thinking human beings. She was brave. like i said No kids at home anymore so no worry there. Second, they also trained. Love the Quigly Down Under reference. Just old school geeze, too used to doing the hard chit the same way, but it worked for me. OFC, in an experiment such as DGs above, we have to have that case in some sort of chamber, to hold the round in perfect position in line with the front of the firing pin while some other device provides the inertia to fire. But now at my age I know me and I know my weapons and youll be gambling with your life if you engage me thinking you know whether there is one in the chamber. But as Sam has pointed out, one needs to practice and I have. OH NO! That was a few years ago now. sanctimonious what iffers 2. The Glock series of semi-automatic pistols features Glock's Safe Action System and a loaded chamber indicator.The Safe Action System comprises three passive safeties. True dat. I would like to carry at the ready, but doing so really gives me the heebie-jeebies. One of the interesting things about that is I can (after clearing) dry fire repeatedly and get a rough visual about how much the aim point moves depending on my grip and finger position. Or a DA/SA auto. Even in that highly unlikely scenario, the gun would likely kill them anyway, even without going off, by blunt trauma alone. I learned to drive on the streets of San Francisco with a van as a teenager when my mom wanted me to drive her around. In a SA revolver, the next round is instantly available anyway, whether fully loaded or one short, quicker out of the leather for the first, second, and third shot than any other existing action type. I have handguns that have a magazine safety I leave the mag out a 1/2 inch in the lock box and the mag cant be rammed home while in the box(like if it were dropped). They are all single-action guns even if the marketing guys play games saying they are 1.5-action or whatever. I would hope that all semi-auto handguns have some sort of striker/firing-pin block that absolutely prevents detonation from dropping the pistol. It comes down to your comfort, training and repetitive use. Kind of like Youtube is determined to censor everything but SJWs and cat videos. Alright so you said all the pros, not all are valid. Yes - I always carry with a round chambered. Why would anyone want only one of something? . I am thinking G2S, my ankle sometimes gets chilly, but, Im happy with my PA-63 In 918, and I have a CZ, in 918, that has the best SA trigger Ive ever felt, since the Smith S.S. Model 66, .357 which was accurized, and tweaked by a smith, that was flat out dangerous, hair wasnt the word. And the latter is where a Glock is dangerous as is *any* other firearm. Im not interested in Israeli carry of a firearm. On one of those occurances, my snubbie bbl. A forum community dedicated to Glock Pistol owners and enthusiasts. Long story short, I let it be known that I thought carrying with an empty chamber is a mistake. The round wouldnt even need to be in a chamber at all. I made a folder called TTAG comments, and put all pages Ive commented on in there. OthersI just didnt think about and for some pretty good reasons. Is it safe to carry a Glock with a round in the chamber? - Quora Third, the reason that actual experts (I would say I am knowledgeable to a point, but an expert I am not) recommend NOT carrying in Condition Three is for the reason that it takes a lot of training and repetition to get truly proficient and most people with a lot of training and proficiency dont carry their pistol unloaded. You rotate the cylinder halfway between the nipples and lower the hammer on the carry notch. How to Store Home Defense Weapons - USA Carry I carry "Mexican" and don't want to end up like Plaxico Burress. I am the same way, my kids randomly jump, hug or accidentally collide with me on a regular basis. These arent exactly the most concealable guns out there. Big Bill: First, mad would need to learn what punctuation is for. ADs by glockinstine operators usually are extracting their golden goose with or wit out a pocket holster, by placing their finger, as so many comments referred to above, on the trigger upon extraction. Me personally I carry a snap cap in the chamber, so if some lucky bastard grabs my gun and shoots hes about to be dead. First much like the Israelis Fairbairn and Sykes had to teach officers how to carry safely in a manner that got them street-ready quickly. I actually think thats worth a healthy debate and article all on its own. I still counted 16, but when he starts fanning it gets a little hard to keep track. Glocks have a feature that prevents the trigger from accidentally being pulled, blocks the firing pin until the trigger is fully pressed, and the pistol is not actually cocked until the trigger is puled. this aint 1902 with a Colt .38 Long primitive revolver and you probably aint riding a horse in pursuit of cattle thieves. So, us non-glockentines keep a low pro on discussing polymers and plastics, but if I had to go to war tomorrow, you can it would be an all steel weapon. But in my house, in the middle of the night, what do I care about 50 yard accuracy or the ability to knock over a steel plate or knock a bowling pin off a table? I have no worries about the gun going off when holstering it or even worse going off by itself while in the holster as many Glocks have done when a fold of the holster got snagged inside the trigger guard. (I dont think any of us are going to try to pocket carry a 1911 or a Glock 17.). Glocks response was to simply make a pistol that was safe without a safety. Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional. This is especially true when it comes to the popular Glock line of handguns. . Are Glocks Safe To Carry Chambered. Running this way I am even more vigilant about how I handle the gun. You might like it. Here we have a conundrum. I have done special work to lighten my trigger and its still not very touchy. The problem is not with the Glock trigger, the problem is a lack of training on the part of the operator. Even though they don't have . Nor with his next, more significant error, suggesting that floating or inertial firing pin guns (like a 1911) ARE drop safe with a round in the chamber, even though all such firearms with a round in the chamber WILL fire if dropped on their muzzle? Most cap and ball revolvers have carry notches between the nipple notches.
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